Hang Out and Play

We out here tryin'

May 21, 2021 Hang Out and Play Episode 11
Hang Out and Play
We out here tryin'
Show Notes Transcript

Happy Friday friends! Hang out and play Pokemon Snap (and My Time At Portia) with us! Today we're talking all about perfectionism and creative projects. We're tired, goofy, and ready to go. Hope you enjoy!

Pokemon Snap:
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/new-pokemon-snap-switch/

Explore lush scenery on unknown islands to snap photos of Pokémon in their natural habitats
Seek out and take in-game photographs of Pokémon in their native environments in the New Pokémon Snap™ game, only for the Nintendo Switch™ system! Snap photos from the NEO-ONE as you you encounter and research lively wild Pokémon. You might see unexpected expressions or behaviors—Pokémon patrolling their territory, playing, or lurking in out-of-the-way spots.

Investigate the mysterious Illumina phenomenon

Travel to the islands that make up the Lental region. In this region, some of the Pokémon and vegetation will appear to have a special glow. Research these Pokémon alongside Professor Mirror as you explore dense jungles, vast deserts, and more! Your observations of Pokémon thriving in the wild may help unravel the truth behind the Illumina phenomenon. The Pokémon pictures you take will be used to build your very own Pokémon Photodex!

Save, edit, and share your favorite Pokémon photos

Save photos to your personal in-game album to edit and adjust them. When you complete a course, you can adjust the brightness, blur, zoom and other aspects of your photo in Re-Snap mode. Then, add stickers, frames, and filters to add a personal touch. Share your favorite photos with family and friends in-game*. You can also see what kinds of photos everyone else is taking. See something you like? Award a Sweet! medal.

This new game brings the gameplay of the 1999 Pokémon Snap game for the Nintendo 64™ system to life on the Nintendo Switch system with unknown islands to discover and different Pokémon to see!

My Time At Portia:
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/my-time-at-portia-switch/

Start a new life in the enchanting town of Portia!
Restore your Pa's neglected workshop to its former glory by fulfilling commissions, growing crops, raising animals, and befriending the quirky inhabitants of this charming post-apocalyptic land!

Armed with your Pa's old handbook and workbench, you must gather, mine and craft your way to being crowned the number one workshop in Portia. Help the locals rebuild the town and uncover the secrets locked deep away beneath it. Be prepared though…it won't be easy!

The town of Portia is full of friendly new faces for you to meet. Make friends, complete requests, exchange gifts, go on dates and let romance blossom!

BUILD YOUR WORKSHOP: Gather resources and craft marvellous machines as you work through daily commissions and villager requests.

RUN YOUR OWN FARM: Grow crops and raise animals.

GET CREATIVE: With craftable furniture, decorations and workshop upgrades.

JOIN THE COMMUNITY: Meet and make friends with a vibrant cast of unforgettable faces.

EXPLORE AND BATTLE: Delve deep into the ancient ruins and dungeons of Portia.

AND THERE’S MORE: Explore new lands, attend in-game festivals, ride horses and llamas, cook, play mini-games and go fishing. How will spend you time in Portia?

Karly
Hey there welcome to our podcast where we try to figure out life together one video game at a time. I'm Karly 

Sam 
And I'm Sam. Grab a snack, grab your controller, and let's hang out and play.
[Music]

Karly  
Hello buddy.

Sam  
Hey, dude. That was different than what we normally do.

Karly  
 It was.

Sam  
Spicy.

Karly  
Wow.

Sam  
Shaking it up.

Karly  
How are you?

Sam  
Oh, I feel like I'm like loopy, tired. So this could be very fun, or very disastrous.

Karly  
Okay, interesting. 

Sam  
Yeah. How are you?

Karly  
Um, it's currently 8pm. And I just had dinner a little bit ago. So it's not my best time of day. I usually don't feel good right about now.

Sam  
You know, that gap of silence between when I asked you how you were and before you started actually speaking, spoke volumes. 

Karly  
It really said it all.

Sam
It really said it all. Just the *sigh*.

Karly
Yeah, I'm just, I'm so used to my stomach feeling horrible. But like, it doesn't stress me out as much anymore because I'm just like I just expect it, but I'm just so tired of it.

Sam  
Yeah.

Karly  
But I'm okay.

Sam  
So I want to kind of talk about this real quickly, just so we can, I can start talking about it. What are you playing today? Because I have some updates on what I'm playing and

Karly  
Ooh. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Karly  
Well, it's going to be one of those episodes where we play different things. I'm playing Pokemon Snap. I've been talking about playing this for several episodes. I'm finally doing it. I'm playing Pokemon Snap. What about you?

Sam  
I love that for you. Because we held on to our promise from last week's episode. I am also playing what I promised I was going to play. Well. Actually, I'm not 

Karly  
No you're not.

Sam  
I'm not because well, I said I was hoping I'd be done Final Fantasy by this point. But I'm not done. I actually haven't picked it up in like a week. Because I'm angry at it.

Karly  
That's fair. 

So I'm playing Portia. And basically what happened not to give too much away, but the town's destroyed.

What? What?!

Sam  
So I'm working on I'm going to help rebuild the school.

Karly  
Interesting. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Karly  
Yeah, that never happened for me, you're so far ahead of where I ever got on Portia so that's like, genuinely very surprising to me. 

Sam  
Yeah. Well, I have the option to take the school the gate or take both or take none. I'm going to take the school I think.

Karly  
I mean, rip, because that sounds like it's going to be very daunting, but.

Sam  
So it's not just based on the fact that I have that new factory, which is just chefs kiss. 

Karly  
That's true. Did you talk about that on an episode or just tell me? 

Sam  
I think I just told you.

Karly  
You should tell everybody about your swaggy factory.

Sam  
Yeah, so basically, my factory basically just insanely speeds up the process of like building anything and everything which is really great. Also, side note, I so much happened in yesterday's time at Portia that like, a huge thing happen and it conflicted with a scheduled like play date I had with someone and it just like made me like basically, like stand that person up. But I didn't mean to it was just like I literally had no control of the events of like, when it ended like when the day like the day just ended for me. I didn't have any say in it. 

Karly  
Yeah. 

Sam  
I just got an angry letter in the mail from them about it.

Karly  
Oh, no. Who was it? 

Sam  
Django.

Karly  
 Ah, okay.

Sam  
I didn't but like I didn't purposely stand them up. And I'm really I'm really sad that he thinks he did.

Karly  
Well, I'm sure you can make it up to him. Take him up present or something.

Sam  
Yeah, whatever. Me and Arlo are dating anyway.

Karly  
I can't talk about that because I'm mad. I'm like, genuinely disappointed. I'm like a disapproving mother. I hate that. 

Sam  
Sorry, mom. Also -

Karly  
You're too good for him. 

Sam  
I mean, I'm too good for anyone.

Karly  
Okay.

Sam  
I said what I said.

Karly  
I know you don't really have any interest in Pokemon Snap. And like, to be fair, I understand that. It's, it's not a game that I want to play all the time. But it's so soothing to me. If you've never played it, if you don't know what it is, I didn't know what it was really going to be before I got it. You are helping to research all of these different areas. So you have to photograph all of these different Pokemon and you have to get you have to get one through four star rated photos. So you have to like redo it a bunch. And you can throw food at them and like surprise them and do all this stuff to get them to react and do different things. And you can capture them during like different activities and stuff. But it's basically like a virtual Safari. And that's it. That's, that's the whole game. But there are also sort of like mini quests or whatever, like they will ask you to take a picture of a certain Pokemon during a certain time doing a certain thing, which makes it a little bit more interesting, I think. And that's why I'm playing it tonight, just because I'm tired. And a little bit emo and not feeling great. And it's just like, I can just slap on Pokemon Snap. And I don't have to have a single thought. It's just cute to look at there's lots of pretty scenery. And it's actually very detailed. There's so much going on at all times. Like you can't catch everything at one, like ride through, so.

Sam  
I can't do anything with that until my flowers grow. Okay.

Karly  
So do you have any interesting life updates? Have you been up to anything fun? Since we last spoke?

Sam  
What's today? My head I'm not kidding. I'm not trying to be dramatic y'all but my head literally feels like jello. Like I feel drunk. And I'm not sadly, I am sober. I just this week has been a whirlwind. I got Legos. But I haven't built them yet. But they're right next to me. I haven't really been up to too much but I have a lot to look forward to. So I've got some things keeping me alive. 

Karly  
Like what like what? Anything you want to share? 

Sam  
Well, I'm getting a tattoo on Friday. 

Karly  
Nice. 

Sam  
I'm going shopping. So like it's gonna be a fun like girls day with my friend Jamie. We're going to get tattoos and then we're gonna go shopping for clothes. And we're gonna end the day drinking and I'm super excited about all that. Saturday, I get to see you again. Sunday I work but meh. I'm gonna probably buy a plane ticket home to visit my family next month. So there's just like a lot happening.

Karly  
Yeah, I gotta say I'm a little bit emo because we had plans to go clothes shopping and it all fell apart.

Sam  
I know so much happened. So much happened and you ended up getting sick that day?

Karly  
I did. I mean, I wasn't like, contagious sick or anything just good old tummy troubles. 

Sam  
Right. 

Karly  
But yeah, we'll have to go shopping another time though.

Sam  
Yes, for sure.

Karly  
I haven't been up too much and I know you didn't ask but I'm gonna tell you anyway.

Sam  
No I was gonna ask don't make me sound like an asshole, damn. 

Karly  
I'm just kidding.

Sam  
'You didn't ask me because you're a shit friend but here's what I've been up to'. 

Karly  
I didn't mean it like that I more meant like I don't know if you're done talking but I'm gonna butt in and talk about me now. I meant more like I'm an asshole. 

Sam  
I think I'm done talking. No. Anyway. Yes. Tell me about your life.

Karly  
Now that we just had a friend crisis. 

Sam  
Right. 

Karly  
Oh, hold on a second. I'm picking just like picking my pictures to show the professor.

Sam  
Oh fun is it Professor Oak?

Karly  
Hold on. Wait till he says his name again. One thing that's not great about me is I don't read a lot in my - no it's notes Professor mirror.

Sam  
Oh.

Karly  
I skip through dialogue like it's nobody's business. Um, anyway,

Sam  
But you'll never get the storyline if you skip it.

Karly  
I do and there's really no storyline in this game either. So. 

Sam  
I mean, that's true. 

Karly  
Anyway, so when I went out shopping, it was actually when I was with you, but I bought some clay and I have officially started to use it.

Sam  
Yay.

Karly  
I made the wonkiest, silly little bumblebee charm. It's really small. It's maybe like, a size of like a quarter. And like, maybe half an inch thick at its widest part. So it's it's pretty small. But he's just he's very wonky. I had like three breakdowns in the process of making him because I am a huge perfectionist. And I also have like a lot of creative ideas that I really want to do. And I feel like I can always see it so perfectly in my head, and then I go to do it. And it's always a million times harder than I ever imagined it will be. And then I get anxious, and then I get mad.

Sam  
Okay, that's fair. But also, I do want to point out that I did see her little bumblebee and it's cute as heck. I don't even think it was wonky. And I don't know if that's just because I didn't see it in person. I don't know. But it was cute. And I would die it. 

Karly  
Well thank you for saying it's cute. I mean, I will say I do think that it is cute. Partly because it's small so like anything miniature i think is adorable. Like immediately. 

Sam  
Yes. 

Karly  
And I gave him little eyes and like a little smiley face. Like he was cute by default, even if he's ugly. But he is wonky. Because so I didn't like scrub my hands super clean before I did it. And like clay will pick up anything. Any tiny dirt or dust or cat hair. Oh my god, the cat hair. It picks it all up. And that was kind of what spurred on the first breakdown was like, I was like five minutes into it and was like 'my clay is so dirty. You can see all this, this fur and I can't get it out.' The clay I was using was also pretty sticky. So it was just so frustrating trying to keep it clean. And then I read online that you can use like alcohol and a Q tip to wipe it clean. I was like okay, fine, I'll do that I spilled the alcohol all over the table. I was just really going through it. But yeah, he has little stripes. They are very misshapen and crooked and not equal sizes. But it was the first thing I ever made. So I am proud of him. Because I mean, I could see where I was going for. But it was also like, I made one little charm. And then I was like I can't do anything else. Now I'm overwhelmed.

Sam  
One thing I want to talk about real quick, a little bit off topic, but kind of on topic as you were talking about that. And like you said miniature and it made me think of those made me think the fact that you sent me that TikTok about that guy with the miniature items. But then that made me think about how you got that mini that there's that product now. The mini ball -

Karly  
minibrands? 

Sam  
- that where you open it mini brands, and I just started thinking about like, what marketing person or like creative designer was like, you know what, we're gonna make miniature versions of everyday products, who's our target audience and we're going to present this. What can they do with it? Nothing but it's cute. So people will love it. 

Karly  
Right. I've been seeing people get those on TikTok and I was like, I need that. I absolutely need it. I was obsessed with like doll houses when I was a kid. I had several of different sizes. And also just, I didn't really care about the dolls as much but I loved all the miniature stuff. I had dollhouse catalogs that I would like carry with me and just flip through and admire all the teeny tiny little things. I just love anything miniature. So I got one of those mini brands when I went to Target with Sam and I was like desperate I needed to have the little box of crayons. It was $10 mind you $10 for little miniature pieces of cardboard really is what it is. But I got my crayon box. It's in my desk drawer right now in the little tiny shopping cart that I also got in my little egg.

Sam  
Manifest your truth, bitch manifest your truth.

Karly  
Was it worth $10? No, it is a little piece of cardboard. It's empty. There are no many crayons inside. But do I love it? Yes, it sparks joy.

Sam  
Well, you know what, in the year of 2021, whatever sparks joy.

Karly  
Honestly, but I know that you are also a super creative person. So do you feel like you have a hard time with perfectionism as well?

Sam  
Yes. All the time. Sorry. I'm again. My my brain just glitched out. 

Karly  
That's okay.

Sam  
Okay, all right. Is there no igneous rock in here? Ah ha. Okay, hold on, figuring things out. Now can I create now can I get? 

Karly  
Oh my god he's so silly looking. A Heliolisk. 

Sam  
I don't know what that is. 

Karly  
I don't know either but he's really cute. He's like a lizard that walks on his hind legs, kind of like a raptor. Very, very cute. I saw a TikTok about this game. And it was basically this girl saying that every time she plays, she just walks away with 63 pictures of bidoof. And like, me, bidoofs are so cute. I'm obsessed with them. And every time I go through,

Sam  
I don't think I've ever seen them.

Karly  
I'll have to send you a picture. I will. maybe I'll post it on Twitter. But they're 

Sam  
Show me the bidoof. 

Karly  
There's so cute. Every time I go through that little island. I'm always like, I'm gonna take pictures of something other than bidoof. And I never do. Oh my god. Hip, hip. Oh, wow. HipPOWdon. HippaDon. It's h i p p o w d o n But it's it's a hippo. Oh my god, it's so cute. *gasp* wow.

Sam  
*gasp* wow. Anyway, to answer your question. I always feel like I basically, if I'm not immediately good at something, I just quit. And I'm trying to be a lot better about it. But it's really hard. Like I have a ukulele that I've been trying to teach myself you know, how to play it. But it I like try and like, strum chords and like can't do it and stop for like six months at a time.

Karly  
Yeah. 

Sam  
Which is not really great but here we are.

Karly  
I remember you talking about how you wish that you had taught yourself how to do that during quarantine.

Sam  
Yeah. Is anyone surprised I didn't do it? No.

Karly  
I mean, to be fair, like, there's no shame in not being your most productive or most successful self during a time of like, great trauma and stress. 

Sam  
Yes, you are absolutely right.

Karly  
But I do understand what you mean, I, my thing is that I will. So I've always really liked doing like craft projects, because my mom is really crafty. And she's pretty good at crafts. So like, I tend to compare myself to anything she's made. But we've always like done a lot of different craft projects and stuff. So I will always come up with like all these different things that I want to do like one week, I want to paint. And then another week, I want to work with clay. And then I want to do embroidery, and then I'm back to drawing and then I want to go back to clay. Like, I have so many things that I want to do that I just I'll start one be frustrated that I'm not very good at it, and then be like, well, maybe I'll be better at another thing. Try that. Oh I'm not good at this either. Let me go back to this other thing. I just need more practice. And it's just like this constant cycle of trying, being disappointed with myself because it's not good enough, trying a different thing. And then just goes on and on and on.

Sam  
Yeah, absolutely.

Karly  
On the other hand, though, I am wildly obsessive. So like, if I like something, I probably won't give it up altogether. And that's like my one saving grace is that eventually I'm gonna be like, well, I'm still really interested in this. I cannot stop thinking about it. So I'll go back.

Sam  
Yeah, so I'm looking around at the damage that was done to the town, because I haven't gone since. Is that, is there a thing?  Is there a chest back here? There's a chest in the trees. What? A grinding blade what in the hell? Anyway, and so there was, I had a fight a rogue knight, and he slammed his sword into the ground. And so I just checked it, and it goes, you're not capable of pulling it out. Level 60 required I'm at level 44 and I've been playing this game pretty consistently now for the past like month, and I'm only at level 44 there's so much to this game I heckin love it.

Karly  
That's wild. I really need to pick it back up again. I just get very overwhelmed. And I honestly haven't played games all week. Like, this is my first time touching my switch since I think you were at my apartment.

Sam  
Oh, wow.

Karly  
But I have been trying to make myself do more what I consider more productive. Like, I don't think there's anything wrong with spending your time playing games. Clearly, I clearly I'm okay with that. But sometimes I get in this mood where like, I haven't drawn or painted or done anything creative in like a really long time. And I'll force myself to like, focus on that for a while. So that's what I've been doing this week. I so like I said, I mean my little clay charm, and then I've been trying to do at least, at least, one small little doodle in my sketchbook just so I can say that I at least did something.

Sam  
Yeah.

Karly  
But. Oh, I got a new a new type of Pokemon. A mandibuzz. Oh, it's like a like a buzzard? He was flying around a hecking tornado. That's stressful.

Sam  
I'm catching fireflies.

Karly  
You would not believe your eyes.

Sam  
If 10 million fireflies? 1 million butterflies?

Karly  
Something like that.

Sam  
I don't know. Something like that. *singing* 'You would not believe your eyes. If 1000 fireflies something something something something something?' Can you believe I was Owl City? That was actually my pseudonym. 

Karly  
It was uncanny.

Sam  
Yeah, thank you.

Karly  
So do you think there's anything that helps you? Personally, to get past perfectionism?

Sam  
I think so I think it depends on the like, task at hand or like the activity that I want to do meaning, like, with ukulele, like it was very easy for me to put that down. But when it comes to things like coloring, for example, like that was something that was an activity that, you know, I picked up a couple years ago but and wasn't immediately good at it or anywhere decent at it. Like I look at some of my past colorings. I'm just like, ooh, sheesh, that's embarrassing compared to what I'm able to do now. Like with different mediums and stuff. And so for some reason, with coloring like it, it didn't matter. Like I just enjoyed it that much like it was something that just like, helped stress at work. And I just naturally like, you could just see a very big difference between when I first started my first Joanna Basford coloring book to some of the more recent things I've colored. So I think it just kind of depends on like, my level of like, interest in it. I guess that helps me overcome it, if that makes sense.

Karly  
Yeah, it does. And also, I think there are certain, I guess, activities that you can put more pressure on like a coloring book, probably nobody else will see. Unless you want them to. And, it's also much more subjective versus like I could understand being a little bit more hesitant with an instrument because we all have strong opinions about music, you know? 

Sam  
Right.

Karly  
I think for me, though, it's very similar. Like, I just need to really love what I'm doing. And then that obsession, like I said, will kick me into doing it more.

Sam  
Yeah, for sure.

Karly  
I think. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Sam  
No, no, go ahead. I was just updating everyone on my journey with the fireflies. 

Karly  
Well, I am interested in that. So we'll go back to that in a second. Um, one thing that also helps me a little bit is, oh, oh my goodness, they're these little - sorry, I got really distracted. I got this new tool for my camera that lets me play music to lure out different kinds of Pokemon. And there are these little I don't even know what they are. But they look like little dancers, they came out of the bush and they started they look like little flowers and they're holding their hands and dancing. It's very wholesome. I, when I'm doing anything like especially drawing I'm, I'm really hard on myself with drawing more than anything else. Which is partially just because I follow so many different artists that I really look up to and, and love on Instagram, and they're so good. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Karly  
But I try to just tell myself, like, you don't have to be a professional or like incredible at anything to do the thing. You can just enjoy the process of drawing. And so that's what I've been trying to do recently is like, I'm not going in it with any huge plan, or expectation. Like, it's just a doodle. I'm just gonna draw and have fun. And make a mess. And if it's messy, that's fine.

Sam  
Yeah, I guess for me, like, the hard thing is like, I want to be the best at something. I want to be the best at all things honestly. And like, I know, that's impossible. But like, sometimes I had this mentality of like, if I'm not the best at it, then I'm worthless. Like, it's so crazy. But like it's literally like that mentality. Also Arlo'sin front of my house. Arlo!

Karly  
Wowie, also happened for the fireflies before we forget?

Sam  
I caught them. And now I had to go find a wart hog den. 

Karly  
Interesting. 

Sam  
Also, Arlo wants to hang out with me tomorrow.

Karly  
Whatever. 

Sam  
Yay. Don't hate me because you ain't me.

Karly  
Whatever. But yeah, I get what you're saying. I don't necessarily want to be the best. But I always like if I start something, I'll get like this grand idea in my head. Like, what if I could make this into my job? What if I was so good that I could like monetize this, which I feel like we've talked about before in the past of like, the curse of being a millennial.

Sam  
Right. Check on my factory, see what materials I need. And then I'm on a mission to find the wart hog den.

Karly  
I took a picture. Sorry, so you get these little fruits that you can throw? I took a picture of the eggsecuter which basically it's just like the palm tree looking guy with like coconuts for heads. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Karly  
And I hit him square in the face with a fruit and got a picture of him raging. 

Sam  
Well, amazing.

Karly  
The little flower people I was telling you about dancing or the bellossoms. 

Sam  
Aww. 

Karly  
Very sweet. As - this is random, but I'm just thinking about what you said. And I'm like reacting to everything at a delay because I'm tired. 

Sam  
It's okay, I feel that.

Karly  
As like your friend, it's wild to me to like, watch you. Because sometimes I'll see you do something and then I watch you like give up on it. I'm like, but you were so good. I know like I probably do it too. But I see you be so hard on yourself. Sometimes I'm like, Oh my god, though. Like, if you could see what I see. You're so talented.

Sam  
Oh, thanks, friend. That's how I feel about you with your drawings. 

Karly  
No, they're trash.

Sam  
No, they're not. It's literally the same thing, they're not trash.

Karly  
No, I can compliment you. But all compliments on me are ridiculous.

Sam  
Okay, sure, Jan. I have to do that. I'm doing that inspection at the commission guild where you have to like spot the difference. And I'm so bad at it. 

Karly  
I love that part. 

Sam  
I know you do. And I did too, in the beginning, but I think it got harder. 

Karly  
Maybe it might have. when you levelup maybe.

Sam  
Like, I think it gets on your level - yeah. Because sometimes like the different like I just can't see the difference. It be crazy.

Karly  
Yeah. Now that we can hang out in person again, though, we should have an art day sometime.

Sam  
Yes. Should we have a paint by numbers?

Karly  
No. We got these paint by numbers, it must have been almost four years ago at this point. I feel like it was a long time ago. And they were very fun. But they're just so intense. And without a doubt or without, without fail. Forgot how to talk for a second. It kills my back every time because I like hunch over like a goblin to see.

Sam  
Yep. I was just gonna say it. I love it. I love the idea for it. But goddamn, does it hurt my back.

Karly  
Those spaces are so small and the letters are so faint.

Sam  
I do miss it though. Could jam. 

Karly  
I really miss just painting in general. I haven't painted anything in a long time. I for a while was really into watercolors. And then I don't know, I must have switched to hyper focusing on something else since then. I didn't do it for a while. And then I was like, I'm gonna paint again one day. I think it was like last year. And it just turned out so bad. Like, it wasn't even like me being you know hard on myself. It's just was like, objectively not good. And like, that's fine. I hadn't painted in probably a year. But like that one moment was like, hmm, I guess paint is dead to me. But I really miss it.

Sam  
Oh I just found another treasure chest. Oh, just found some brass knuckles. 

Karly  
That's ominous.

Sam  
Okay. Oh, okay. Where am I? What am I? Is there instructions on this mission? Let's see. Oh, they're not called wart hogs are called war hogs.

Karly  
That's scarier somehow.

Sam  
Honestly.

Karly  
So, because we've like, you know, basically, we've been talking about how much we suck for an hour.

Sam  
That's quarantine baby. 

Karly  
It's not even quarantine us it's just us. What is one of you like the most favorite things you've ever done creatively? And you have to give something because you've done so many cool things.

Sam  
I would say I really enjoyed creating podcasts art. The ones for us, but even the one for my friend Megan.

Karly  
Give her a shout out. What's her pod? 

Sam  
Yes, her podcast is Thoughts From Pool Therapy. I created her cover art. She's a great time, Megan is the best. I worked with her at the Disney College Program. We worked a Spaceship Earth together.

Karly  
What a throwback.

Sam  
Honestly. And, yeah, I would say that's probably the things I'm probably most proud of creatively anyway. I mean, there are some coloring pages in my books that I've really I've been really proud of, but I would say the podcast stuff probably the most.

Karly  
Yeah, that's a good answer. I love her album art, or whatever you want to call it. From, like Spotify and stuff. It's really cute. And it fits like the vibe of the podcast perfectly as well. 

Sam
Yeah. 

Karly
Which isn't like an easy thing to do. 

Sam  
Yeah, I basically like gave her some guys like, here's what I want. I was like, here's the vision I have for your cover art. Can you go get some picture?

Karly  
Oh, I didn't know you like directed the photos, basically.

Sam  
Kind of I was like, I was like, I really could jam just like, I really want to see you like with some pictures, like in the pool and like and I described that one I was like, I kind of like want you in a tube. And she's like, okay, like and she sent me a whole bunch. Like I want to say like over 100.

Karly  
Oh my god, I love that. 

Sam  
And that was the one that I really loved and fell in love with for like the art work to pick so which was fun, but what about you? What's one of the things you're proud of?

Karly  
Well, first of all, I will just say their podcast is so much fun. It has a really cute theme to it. So you should definitely check it out. It reminds me a little bit of ours in just like friends hanging out and talking about basically anything. 

Sam
Yep.

Karly
But yeah, definitely check it out. It's a good time. I don't know I I have a couple of pages in a few sketchbooks that I am proud of. I do, not every year, but a lot of years, I'll try to do Inktober. And I had a couple last year that I was really proud of because I tried to draw things that I don't usually draw, which I don't do often I rarely step out of my comfort zone. I can draw like 3 things. So I really liked that. But if we're talking drawings, specifically, one of the things I'm most proud of, and I'll never be able to do it again. Years ago, when we were going to have Shaarmli week - Shaarmli is what we call me, Sam, and Lexi, we were going to go to Epcot. And I did countdown drawings, leading up to our week together. So I started out 90 days and 80, 70, whatever. And each 10 day period, I would draw a new Disney character. And then when we hit one week, or no, I think it was when we hit like 11 days or something. I drew little cartoony doodles of the three of us in each of the different pavilions at Epcot. But one of the characters that I drew was Mickey Mouse. And you would think he's really easy, because at first glance, he looks like he's all circles. No, no, Mickey Mouse is the hardest thing I've ever drawn in my entire life. And it actually looks like him in the picture. So proud.

Sam  
I love that. I remember one time back in back when in Hollywood studios, they had like the Art of Animation and they had that you could draw with some animators and stuff. I was in line with someone I was like, please, like, I don't want Mickey Mouse. Like he's all circles. I can't draw circles. All this stuff was bah, bah, bah. And wouldn't you know, we got Mickey Mouse. And I just I think I have it somewhere. It's horrifying. Like it's not great but.

Karly  
The thing about Mickey Mouse that's hard is that yes, you circles but he's not like perfect circles. They're just like, slightly off. 

Sam  
Right. 

Karly  
But it's so hard to get them like just right. And like because he's such a recognizable character. If you're just a little bit off, it's so obvious and seems like like a glaring thing, you know? 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Karly  
I think that's why I don't do fan art. I would love to draw fan art because I obsess over fictional characters that are not mine. And I just think it's really fun and I would love to be able to like, like I watch Critical Role every week. I would love to draw Critical Role fan art and share it after the episodes. But people have such a concrete idea of what these characters look like and if you can't get it to match it just doesn't work. But like we out here doing stuff anyway so. 

Sam  
True. 

Karly  
I really liked when you started your new degree that you did in school because I watched you do a whole bunch of stuff that like you wouldn't have necessarily done on your own like you got a sketchbook. 

Sam  
Yep. 

Karly  
And I saw you try out different mediums and draw a bunch of stuff. 

Sam  
Yes, bish we out here. 

Karly  
We love that.

Sam  
We are here trying. You love to see it. 

Karly  
So I unlocked two new islands while we were playing. 

Sam  
Oh fun. 

Karly  
One of them is really pretty it's super tropical and there's like seashells all along the beach makes me think of you.

Sam  
Awww, I love that. I am almost finished my day which will be a good place to start because I have to really prepare for my date tomorrow.

Karly  
With Arlo?

Sam  
With Arlo.

Karly  
I just don't like that man.

Sam  
Don't know what to tell you. Because he is my soul.

Karly  
Okay, let's step it back. That was a little extreme.

Sam  
He's my soulmate.

Karly  
I am sad that he did not blow up with the town.

Sam  
Damn. Tell me how you really feel. Don't get on Karly's bad side. 

Karly  
Honestly. I will hold a grudge for the rest of my life. I'll never let it go.

Sam  
Oh my god. So funny.

Karly  
So friend, we have been recording somehow it's already been 45 minutes.

Sam  
I know and I'm gonna be really honest. All I can think about is dinner, I'm so hungry.

Karly  
Alright, we can get off here you can go eat but what do you think you're gonna play next week?

Sam
Maybe I’ll pick up Final Fantasy again.

Karly
Maybe.

Sam
Maybe, I just got mad, I got so far and then I had to start all over from a checkpoint and I’m just angry.

Karly
Oof, I hate that. 

Sam
Yeah.

Karly
If you come over, well you are coming over, but if you want when you come over we could record and we could play Overcooked.

Sam
Oh yeah, true, we do need to play that.

Karly
That’s going to be pure chaos. I hope no one is expecting any interesting conversations when we play that, it’s just going to be us screaming at each other. Can’t wait.

Sam
Yep.

Karly
It’s gonna be cathartic.

Sam
Honestly.

Karly
Okay, friend, I love you.

Sam
I love you.

Karly
Enjoy your dinner.

Sam
Thank you, I will.

Karly
Bye.

Sam
Bye.

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Sam 
Hey and thanks for hanging out and playing with us. We hope you had fun. if you want to see more of us find us on social media @hangoutandplay or on our website at hangoutandplaypod.com. We'd love to hear from you so feel free to send us a game suggestion or just a hello

Karly 
And if you liked our podcast, please share with your friends and leave us a review on apple podcasts so that more people can find us. We'll see you next time.

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