Hang Out and Play

Maybe I just don't like Earth

May 28, 2021 Hang Out and Play Episode 12
Hang Out and Play
Maybe I just don't like Earth
Show Notes Transcript

Hi friends! This is a special episode because it's our very first episode with a guest! Welcome our good friend, Abe. Baker extraordinaire and lover of all things spooky. We went with chaos for this episode, so three games are featured in this one. Hang out and play Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy, and Stardew Valley with us!

We gush over friendship and talk about astrology, space, the ocean, and the likelihood that we would be killed by wildlife. It's a fun one. Enjoy!

Games in this episode:

Kingdom Hearts Final Mix
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP0082-CUSA05933_00-KINGDOMHEART1525

KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX is an HD remastered collection of 6 unforgettable KINGDOM HEARTS experiences available for the first time on the PlayStation® 4. The HD collection features:
• KINGDOM HEARTS FINAL MIX
• KINGDOM HEARTS Re:Chain of Memories
• KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (HD Remastered cinematics)
• KINGDOM HEARTS II FINAL MIX
• KINGDOM HEARTS Birth by Sleep Final MIX
• KINGDOM HEARTS Re:coded (HD Remastered cinematics)
Key Features
• Celebrate 15 years of KINGDOM HEARTS with this essential collection - Remember and relive 6 adventures from KINGDOM HEARTS Dark Seeker Saga before the release of highly anticipated KINGDOM HEARTS III.
• Experience the magic of KINGDOM HEARTS - If you are new to the franchise, KINGDOM HEARTS HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX is the perfect opportunity to start wielding your Keyblade to save the Disney worlds from darkness.

Final Fantasy VII Remake
https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP0082-CUSA07211_00-FFVIIREMAKE00000

Final Fantasy VII Remake is a 2020 action role-playing game developed and published by Square Enix. It is the first in a planned series of games remaking the 1997 PlayStation game Final Fantasy VII. Set in the dystopian cyberpunk metropolis of Midgar, players control mercenary Cloud Strife.

Stardew Valley
https://store.steampowered.com/app/413150/Stardew_Valley/


Stardew Valley is a simulation role-playing video game developed by Eric "ConcernedApe" Barone. It was released for Microsoft Windows in February 2016, and later for macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation Vita, iOS, and Android.

You've inherited your grandfather's old farm plot in Stardew Valley. Armed with hand-me-down tools and a few coins, you set out to begin your new life. Can you learn to live off the land and turn these overgrown fields into a thriving home?

Karly
Hey there welcome to our podcast where we try to figure out life together one video game at a time. I'm Karly 

Sam 
And I'm Sam. Grab a snack, grab your controller, and let's hang out and play.
[Music]

Karly  
Hey, buddy. 

Sam  
Hey, dude. 

Abe  
Hey, friends.

Sam  
Oh, who are we blessed with?! 

Karly  
Who is that? Today's a special day. 

Sam  
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. I'm so excited. 

Abe  
Really excited to be here. Really excited. 

Karly  
Sam, do you want to do the introduction? 

Sam  
Yes. Don't have to tell me twice. So we are joined today by our friend, Abe. Abe, hello. 

Abe  
Hello. 

Sam  
Abe is also a huge game fanatic. A lot of times we spend time he's part of our friend group that we've talked about on other episodes where we just spend Friday nights and we've played among us, we've played Animal Crossing together. And so we decided to have him on our show.

Karly  
Yay. 

Abe  
And I'm so happy to be here. I love when we get to do stuff like just literally hang out and play. 

Sam  
Yes. He said the thing.

Karly  
I see what you did there, I liked it. 

Abe  
I did a thing. I'm so lost in this game.

Karly  
It be like that.

Sam  
It be like that. 

Abe  
Where do I go? I'm currently playing the Tarzan level of Kingdom Hearts. That's where I'm lost.

Karly  
Interesting, interesting. 

Sam  
That world is so for me is so hard to like navigate. I always get lost in Tarzan.

Karly  
I have never played any Kingdom Hearts games. So I have no idea what you guys are talking about. But I will take your word for it.

Abe  
It's basically I have a character who is now currently stuck in Disney's Tarzan. Trying to figure out how to get Tarzan to lead me to where the monkeys are.

Karly  
I don't know if I have ever even watched Tarzan.

Sam  
I watched it like twice. Maybe it's just too sad. But Phil Collins slapped. 

Karly  
I mean, yes. 

Abe  
He did not have to go that hard and he did. 

Sam  
But he did he did for all of us. 

Abe  
Sure did. 

Karly  
But Sam, what are you playing today?

Sam  
I will answer that. But real quick. I want to because you've never played Kingdom Hearts. I would love to hear what you think based on what you do know and what you've heard. What do you think Kingdom Hearts is about?

Karly  
Um, you play as person who goes through different Disney themed worlds collecting keys? 

Sam  
Okay, close. 

Karly  
Or something? 

Sam  
Uh huh. 

Abe  
That's pretty close, yeah. 

Karly  
That's all I know.

Sam  
Slap that on the Wikipedia page. That's basically no one really knows what it's there's like so many. Kingdom Hearts is just. 

Abe  
There are 10 Kingdom Hearts games. 

Karly  
What? 

Sam  
And there are different but like, and they're all for different platforms. And they came out in a different order. And they like 1.5 and 3.5. And like heart of memory. Like there's just different ones. 

Abe  
There's so many different ones. And so many different like, they came out not in a chronological order. 

Sam  
Yeah.

Abe  
So like, the first one came out in 2004. And then they came out with Kingdom Hearts 2. And then they went back to like Kingdom Hearts: chain of memories, which is like 1.5 just like lots of bouncing around and whatnot.

Karly  
But why? 

Sam  
Why not? 

Karly  
Why must it be this complicated? 

Sam  
Because Square Enix said heck it. Square Enix said heck your logic. 

Karly
Okay. 

Abe  
They were like, you know what this is, this is what we're gonna do. And also, if you want to completely understand the full story, you have to play all 10 games, and we're not going to tell you in what order. 

Sam  
Right. 

Karly  
I hate that. That really stresses me out.

Sam  
That's why I was curious to hear your definition because quite honestly, like, I don't even think I could like I could not tell you the storyline of Kingdom Hearts. I know the basics, but it got so this convoluted I feel like I don't know if that's the right word, but it just got so dense and just so much information and just, there's just a lot happening. 

Abe  
There is a lot, but it's a lot of fun to play. 

Sam  
Yes, it is. 

Karly  
So do you like fight things? Or? 

Sam  
Yes, so you fight these things called the heartless. So basically, you're trying to restore light into the these worlds that have been overcome by darkness.

Abe  
Yeah, so like, the villains in Disney's stories are like, the big baddies of the world. But then there's also this place around this group called organization 13. And they - deep into lore here, they're created by ansem, who looks very similar to Sephiroth, but it's not Sephiroth from Final Fantasy. And he has the ability to like timeskip back and forth, which is why all the games are convoluted, but basically, organization 13 is a bunch of people that he kind of, like, created, I don't know created is a correct word. But like, they create people who are heartless and try and turn them into like, dark and creature to essentially rule out all of the friendship and love in all of these different worlds in order to gain power. And I know that's not like the best description of it, but that's like the best one that I could. 

Sam  
That was a pretty good. yeah. I forgot about ansem but I almost just called him arson. 

Abe  
Close enough. 

Karly  
You got the spirit. 

Sam  
I do I really tried there. But to answer your question, Karly, I am playing Final Fantasy seven the remake. I had played it a few weeks ago, I got I've gotten really far. I was playing it all the time. And then I got I lost a really important like boss fight I was super close to feeding this machine. And I died. And then I had to start all over again. And I got so mad that I put it down and haven't picked it up since until now. So I'm trying again, I had to backtrack. Which is super annoying. I had to fight another boss first. But now I'm back where I was. And now just, it's not like super hard. It's just been Oh, we have been joined by oh geez by beanbag. Our cat Walter has joined us. 

Karly  
Hello Walter.

Abe  
Baby. 

Sam  
He is on the table. Oh, gosh, she's gonna be a brat.

Karly  
Well, you know.

Sam  
But yeah, so now I'm playing Final Fantasy again. We'll see if I finally make it, or.

Karly  
I have also never played a Final Fantasy game. 

Sam  
This is my first one actually. 

Abe  
Karly, do you have an idea of what Final Fantasy is like either for that?

Karly  
Ah, I have literally no idea what Final Fantasy is. I just imagine anime fighting.

Abe  
Yes, yeah. Final Fantasy is another one of those that has a whole bunch of different like offsets that don't actually go together, but kind of go together. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Abe  
So you're not wrong. It is very much just anime fighting. 

Karly  
Yeah. 

Abe  
Pretty outfits. 

Sam  
But the characters are really hot. And I'm not afraid to say that on air. 

Abe  
You're right and you should say it. Karly what did you decide you're gonna play?

Karly  
I'm playing Stardew because I didn't know what to play. I have neither of those games. So we're, we're going full chaos today. Everybody's playing something different. But it be like that sometimes.

Abe  
We don't always have to play the same things. You can just enjoy different things that your friends enjoy at the same time. 

Karly  
Yeah. 

Sam  
Except I'm playing Final Fantasy, but all I can think about is Kingdom Hearts.

Karly  
Homie you have Kingdom Hearts. You could've played. 

Sam  
I know. I know. But I was like I should really work on. I should really work on Final Fantasy because I really want to finish it. And I feel like I'm kind of close. So.

Abe  
Yeah. 

Sam  
I want to I want to have it finished. 

Karly  
Yeah. 

Abe  
I just straight up ran off the edge of a platform that I was on. Didn't even stop just ran right off the edge. 

Karly  
Well, you know. 

Abe  
It be like that sometimes. 

Karly  
It do.

Sam  
I was talking to Karly earlier Abe, because so my job for like our annual review, like based on like our quarterly review scores for the year, they recently implemented this thing where like, now we can receive up to an $8,000 bonus on top of like a 3% pay increase on our yearly like reviews. And so the like, the lowest amount, like if you're like, just meeting expectations, like you can get a bonus of up to $2,000, or $2,000 and then if you've like you've gotten like all 4.0's or like, things like that, you could be up to like up to 8000, but so I could have I was telling Karly like $2,000 straight into my direct deposit, who gave me a pretty nice gaming PC. 

Abe  
It sure could.

Sam  
It's literally all I've thought about this afternoon. 

Abe  
Do it. That's awesome. 

Karly  
I am sad and poor. I want a bonus. 

Abe  
Right? If I were staying with my company, for the rest of the summer, I can get a bonus but I'm not so I can't. 

Karly  
Yeah cause you're moving to Texas. 

Sam  
Yeah. What are you doing Abe? 

Abe  
Uh, I'm moving to Texas and my job is only in Michigan. But live that life. Livin my dreams.

Karly  
I want everybody to know that I did find Abe's apartment so.

Sam  
Oh, did you? 

Abe  
Yes you did. 

Sam  
Amazing. 

Abe  
Karly found my apartment. 

Sam  
Karly found our apartment when me and Lexi first moved down here. 

Karly  
I'm gonna start charging a finders fee. 

Abe  
Karly is really good at finding apartments. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Karly  
I just love that Zillow life.

Abe  
Right? Karly's fee is accessibility into your apartment. Snuggles.

Karly  
God. it's really funny that both of you ended up on second floor apartments like the irony. It's my curse. Stairs are my curse.

Abe  
Well, that just means that I'm gonna have to come and visit you, so. 

Karly  
Honestly. 

Abe  
Here for it. I miss, like, I miss you guys. I miss seeing you guys. 

Sam  
God. 

Abe  
It's been way too long.

Karly  
Yeah, I when was the year that so the only time that I've actually like seen Abe in person was like, before we were like 

Abe  
We've seen each other twice. 

Karly  
Okay. But they were both the same theme though. It was when you came down with Lexi.

Abe  
Once was at a Denny's. 

Karly  
Yes. Once was at a Denny's. My mom had coupons. It was great. And then once he came to my house for breakfast. 

Abe  
Yes.

Karly  
But like, we haven't really just like hung out. Just us for the sake of hanging out. Because last time I was here. I didn't get to meet up. It was very sad. 

Abe  
It was very sad.

Sam  
And also, I mean, Karly have kind of talked about this a little bit. But like, I feel like this past year, like even though it's been a huge dumpster fire with the pandemic. I feel like it's really kind of just brought us closer, Abe, because like, I mean, we were friends. Like I met you a couple times. And you came down here a couple years ago. And we had a great weekend. But before you came and visited, like we hadn't really talked. 

Abe  
I knew you guys in like passing. 

Sam  
Yeah.

Abe  
You're like mutual friends that I knew through a friend. Like this last year really has, like, solidified like No, these are my people.

Sam  
Yeah. And so it's just been really great getting closer with you.

Karly  
Yeah, Abe and I always laugh because we're like, oh my god, I just realized I'm literally dying in this mine. Hold on. 

Sam  
I'm gonna die again. 

Karly  
I wasn't even paying attention to my health what a dummy. But yeah, Abe and I laugh because we would have been so much closer. But we both always had like this existential crisis of like, are we only friends with each other because we have a mutual friend. Is it okay to talk to each other?

Abe  
Exactly. Like I know someone that you're friends with and I'm friends with them to but like, am I allowed to talk to you or do you hate me because I'm here? Because that's always my big fear. Like, am I a friend of convenience?

Karly  
Yeah. And like.

Abe  
No, we're just really cool people. 

Karly  
Yeah. But like we both have the same panic, but we didn't really talk about it. 

Abe  
Exactly. 

Karly  
It just kept going. But now we're fully obsessed with each other, so. 

Sam  
Love that, love the growth. 

Abe  
Exactly. We call that growth.

Sam  
Yeah. So Abe has many talents, also, sidenote before I get into what I really want us to talk about, you mentioned a donut and all I can think about the donuts the fact that you like made donuts a few weeks ago, and I'm still thinking about them.

Abe  
Yeah, I just finished those actually. I just finished eating them. 

Sam  
Amazing. So aside from baking, Abe is very talented at a lot of different things, but one thing that he loves is astrology, and spooky things and witchy things. And so I figured we could talk about astrology today.

Abe  
Yay. There's a full moon coming up my friends and it's gonna be a big one. 

Karly  
Okay, what does this mean? 

Sam  
I think I did, I think I did know that. 

Abe  
Okay, so there. There's a full moon, I do believe that it is going to be in Scorpio and there's a lunar eclipse, at the same time. And then, of course, around that Saturn is going to be in retrograde. And Mercury is also going to be in retrograde. So it's just like

Sam  
I feel like metro- metro. I feel like mercury is always in retrograde. 

Abe  
So there's a reason for that. If you want me go deeper into it. 

Sam  
Yes, tell us. 

Abe  
So, planets go retrograde when, from our perspective here on Earth, like you're looking at it and it looks like it's starting to spin backwards. Kind of like when you're driving on the highway and you look at someone's car tires and like you look at them long enough they start spinning backwards. So that's what the planets are doing. Like they're rotating in the sky, they're going past us. And then from our perspective, they look like they're spinning in the wrong direction. 

Sam  
Okay. 

Abe  
Mercury being closer to the sun than us, right? 

Sam  
Yep.

Abe  
Yes. My high school science brain just kicked off for a second there. It goes around the sun much faster than we do. 

Sam  
Okay. 

Abe  
So as it's passing us, it's going to look like it goes. It's going backwards. So that's why mercury goes into retrograde as often as it does, because it's speedy. 

Sam  
So it's a speedy dick. 

Abe
Yeah, basically.

Sam
Speedy dick. I don't know why I thought that was so funny.

Abe  
Because it is. 

Sam  
Speedy dick. Oh, God. Sorry, I'm tired. 

Abe  
So all of that's gonna be happening in like the same week. 

Sam  
We hecked.

Karly  
Okay, but like in terms of astrology, what does it mean? If it's in retrograde? Like, what does that supposed to signify? 

Abe  
So retrograde is generally like,

Sam  
Chaos. 

Abe  
Yeah. It's like a reassessment of values from like, my belief I'm not 100% certain if that's like, exactly what it means because as much as I love all of this, I'm still also relatively baby about it, but so like, mercury in retrograde usually means like, things that needs to be tackled from your past are going to come up, come up, like, for a long time, my ex who I stopped talking to would contact me and we're single Mercury Retrograde. Like, I'm like, literally on schedule.

Karly  
I hate that. 

Abe  
Yeah, it was uh it was a time but like, you know, things needed, things that need to be worked out generally show themselves around a retrograde and it all depends on like, what planet is in retrograde and what kind of like things it deals with. So like, Mercury deals with communication and things like that. Saturn being one of the outer planets. I don't know 100% remember what Saturn stands for. So I'm not going to like even attempt to BS my way through it, but. 

Sam  
That's okay. 

Abe  
So that's usually what break retrograde does it just kind of like, like, hey, these are the things that you need to work on. And I think Mercury Retrograde hits all of us so hard because there's a lot of like, it brings up a lot of issues that people don't really want to deal with. And it's like, okay, now you're gonna tackle this. And if you don't tackle it now, we're gonna tackle it in about 30 to 60 business days again, so. 

Karly  
Great. Great. 

Abe  
Have fun. Yeah, and then like, full moon in Scorpio. Scorpio is generally very, like, emotional and

Sam  
Great. I'm already emotional because I'm a Pisces. 

Abe  
And then, oh yeah, you are a Pisces. I do have your guys' chart somewhere.

Sam  
Yeah, you do.

Abe  
But and then it's also a lunar eclipse. And a lunar eclipse is just like a magnifying glass for it. 

Sam  
Great. 

Karly  
I hate that. 

Abe  
It's gonna be a fun time. Gonna be great.

Karly  
This just further cements the fact that I don't trust space. 

Sam  
Yeah, same.

Abe  
You know, that's valid. I love space. I love space. 

Karly  
Space scares me. 

Sam  
It terrifies me. 

Abe  
This is okay, so this is gonna sound really weird. And I am not ashamed of that. If I could marry the planet Jupiter, I would.

Karly  
I would marry the moon. 

Sam  
You know, it makes so much sense that uh. Hold on I lost my train of thought because all I could think about was avatar, like 'my girlfriend turned into the moon. That's rough buddy'.

Abe  
That's rough buddy.

Sam  
Oh, I know what I was gonna say. I was gonna say, Jesus. Hold on. I'm trying not to die. That you like sleeping it last. The artist.

Abe  
Yes. That album. The Atlas album. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Abe  
Literally, top five favorite albums of all time. 

Karly  
So many references that I do not understand. 

Abe  
Karly, we're gonna have to educate you. 

Karly  
Okay. 

Abe  
When I come down, now I just have plans for what I come visit you. 

Karly  
True. 

Abe  
I'm going to corner you and just to introduce you to all of these things.

Karly  
Okay. As long as you snuggle me. 

Abe  
Yeah, of course. 

Karly  
Okay, cool. 

Abe  
Snuggles are a requirement of friendship. 

Karly  
This is true.

Abe  
So everyone knows. Especially with me, you cannot be my friend unless we snuggle. 

Karly  
Great.

Abe  
So yeah, I'm gonna pull up your guys's charts, because I keep so in Tarzan world. I am trying to jump from vine to vine, and Sora refuses to grab the vines that I need to grab. 

Sam  
Of course. 

Abe  
He just keeps falling back into the water. And then I have to climb all the way up again and start from the beginning. So I'm going to grab your star charts while I try not to throw my controller at my TV. 

Karly  
Wow, great. Okay.

Sam  
When I was so I was out with friends on Friday night. And one of the we were talking and he was talking about how like, he's a cancer. His birthday is July 12. And oh, and he was like, I thought you guys hated me. And I was like, why would you think I hated you? And he was like, I don't know. I said, You cancers always need reassurance people don't hate you. 

Abe  
That's rich coming from a Pisces. 

Sam  
I mean, I know

Karly  
See this is what I mean, I couldn't like reference anybody's sign because none of it means anything to me. And I think it's just because when I first learned that I was an Aquarius. So this was like a long time ago, I would always like look at shit about being an Aquarius, and nothing ever like resonated with me ever. So then I was like

Abe  
And then I did your star chart. 

Karly  
Yeah. And I was like, this is all bullshit. None of this makes any sense. I don't I don't trust any of this. So I never paid attention to astrology. And then Abe was like, Hmm, I see why.

Abe  
Yeah. Because Karly is an Aquarius, but has 1 2 3 4 5 6 placements that are Capricorn. So like, half of your chart is just one sign. And that's like things like your communication, your love life, your, like values and things like that. Just, there's so much that is Capricorn and that's probably why you've ever felt like it, you know, resonated with you.

Karly  
Yeah. It's wild. I should look at like Capricorn memes, but I never do.

Abe  
I can always send you some I just had that meme of like, Marge Simpson holding the potato and it's just like, astrology memes: I just think they're neat.

Sam  
I died again. Barret died again. 

Abe  
Noo. 

Sam  
I'm going. Which means Aerith's gonna I'm gonna die because Aerith is not a great fighter. And I'm quitting.

Abe  
You can stand up, get a drink of water, go potty. You know, that's the typical like, that's, that was the best like fighting game advice that I ever got from my friend Lindsay was like, if you're frustrated, stand up, grab a drink of water, grab a snack, go to the bathroom if you have to, like and then come back and reset yourself. Repeat as necessary.

Karly  
Mine is just get mad, cry, change the game. 

Abe  
That's also valid. 

Karly  
So Abe what would you say? Or like, if you had to describe a capricorn? How would you describe it?

Abe  
Capricorn. So Capricorns are an earth sign, which means they're very like a grounded sign. They're very I don't want to use the term focused. But like, that's the best term that I think I could use something along the lines of like you know, exactly what like you have a plan for what you want. Like very much a I'm going to work it out kind of headstrong. They are also like a ram. No they're not. That's a lie, okay, so it's a goat. Not a ram. Aries is a ram. 

Karly  
You were close. 

Abe  
I was close. I know what something with antlers that would hurt me but I also love.

Karly  
Yes. 

Abe  
Yeah, so very headstrong, very, like analytical. 

Karly  
Okay. 

Abe  
Very good with money. Capricorns are very good with money. And like business things. 

Karly  
I am fairly good with money. 

Abe  
Yeah.

Karly  
 I have good self control. 

Abe  
Yeah, like that's that's very much a very good quality to have. I on the other hand, and a double taurus and I love spending money. I wouldn't say that I'm good with it.

Karly  
There's so many things that I want but I hate spending money. If I have a gift card, I will hoard it for two years before I will use it because I just like to have the gift card. I like knowing that it's there. 

Abe  
Couldn't be me. Could not be me. Someone gives me a gift card. I'm instantly on that website trying to figure out what I can buy with that money plus some.

Karly  
That's funny. I'm just always stressed about money. It's truly just fueled by panic.

Abe  
That's, that's a big old mood. I totally understand that. 

Karly  
What about Pisces? 

Abe  
I love Pisces, probably because my mom's a Pisces, and they just have a very like, my mom's a saint. But Pisces are very much fixers, and very much like very emotional. They have - this is gonna sound really bad but they have a tendency to go for like the lost cause type people who like they feel need a lot more support than others. And kind of put a lot of their energy into that. Pisces to me seems like a very people pleaser kind of sign. 

Sam  
That checks out for Sam. 

Abe  
Very, very emotional but also like, in a way there's like a subtle confidence to Pisces because like, you have to feel like you can provide what someone needs in order to be willing to try and give them what you think they need. Pisces, from my experience are very loving, nurturing people. I have a lot of Pisces in my life that are really wonderful people so. 

Karly  
Fascinating. 

Abe  
That would be my best description of them. Sam your chart, you are a Pisces sun and Karly, you're an Aquarius and but you're also a Sagittarius moon. And we can get into like Sun and Moon and rising signs if you guys would like. 

Karly  
I don't know what any of that shit means. 

Abe  
So your sun sign is the sign that everyone knows their sun sign, that is a sign that like this is where the sun was, when you were born. And this is like your general astrological sign. 

Karly  
Okay. 

Abe  
Your moon sign is obviously where the moon was when you were born. But it's more of a, this is how you kind of deal with like emotional aspects of things. And it's considered, quote unquote, your true sign. So it's how you deal with things behind the scenes. So as like a Sagittarius moon for you, Karly, if you found yourself like when people are like asking you to do something, you could find yourself being a little bit more impulsive, a little bit, a little less of a filter, things like that. And then Sam is a Capricorn moon, which we went over earlier is more like analytical and like, it's kind of like if you take a minute and step back. How you would deal with things in that moment is more along the lines of like what your moon sign would be.

Karly  
Interesting. It stresses me out, though, that you say I'm mostly Capricorn but then my true sign is Sagittarius that stresses me out. I don't fit in anywhere.

Abe  
You fit in exactly where you're supposed to Karly. 

Karly  
Thanks Abe. 

Abe  
All of this is like it can get deep. But just like it's fun. It's just fun. 

Sam  
Yeah. 

Abe  
Like, who knows the actual full truth as to whether or not the stars like the way they align are exactly 100% what makes us us? I think we are all conglomerations of people and the universe and friends and family and outside sources. Like everyone's different. Everyone's where they're meant to be. So yeah, and if you're not there yet, you will be. 

Sam  
We're just atoms floating on a rock floating in space. 

Abe  
Exactly. And there is so much space out there. 

Karly  
We can't get into that. No. 

Abe  
You guys are scared of space.

Sam  
Which is, it's just funny, because I'm not afraid of the ocean. And we know more about space than we do the ocean. But for some reason, space just really freaks me out. 

Abe  
You know, that's fair. And that's valid.

Karly  
I feel I know a lot about space. But like, we still don't know that much about space. Like there's just so much. I mean, we know a lot.

Abe  
There's so many questions like the ocean. The ocean we don't know a lot about but we know that the ocean is finite. 

Karly  
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly. 

Abe  
When you think of space. Space is not finite, at least not that we can tell. 

Sam  
Yeah.

Abe  
So it's intimidating. 

Karly  
It's horrifying. There's that like video that shows like the zoo - that shows the zoom. It shows the earth and then it keeps zooming out more and more and more. Like, oh my god. 

Sam  
So you can see the different planets, right? 

Karly  
Yes. Yeah. And then like goes to like the different galaxies and it's so horrifying to me. And it is exactly why I'm like there has to be aliens. If humans believe that we're just this tiny. 

Abe  
I was gonna ask do you guys believe in aliens? 

Sam  
100%.

Karly  
Absolutely. There's no way that on this one teeny tiny little rock. We just happened to be the only things that's just arrogant. 

Sam  
Yeah. There's no way.

Abe  
Yeah, there's no way like there's there's too much out there for us to be the only ones and if people think we're the only ones that's very, very self centered and very narrow minded, in my opinion. 

Sam  
Yes.

Karly  
100% 100%. 

Abe  
I had so when I attempted college the first time. If I were better at math, I really wanted to be like an astrophysicist, but I'm super gay and super bad at math. So didn't really work out. But I took a couple of astronomy courses, and whatnot. And one of my classes was an actual planetarium. And like 

Sam  
That's so fun. 

Abe  
That was one of my favorite courses to go to, because literally, we just like, laid back and looked at the stars all day every day. And I was like, I need to be out there.

Sam  
I wanna be where the aliens are. 

Abe  
Exactly. 

Karly  
I love to look at stars, like I would love to one day like go out in the middle of nowhere and like fully see the stars. But anything beyond that really scares the crap out of me. 

Abe  
And you are completely valid in that thought. 

Karly  
And people who want to like go to space scare me because I have watched, like astronauts in a launch. That looks like hell.

Abe  
I don't think I could like what sounds like hell, in that situation for me, is being in that close of contact with other human beings. 

Sam  
That's fair, that's also valid. 

Abe  
That, no thanks. Put me into space by myself. And let me just like go out and do whatever I want. Like, give me a little rocket booster and let me like toot round in space. I would be the happiest being in the entire world but if you make me do that with like, five people and like a 10 by 10 cube. We're gonna fight, we're just gonna fight. 

Karly  
The idea of being like out in space alone just seems so isolating and scary.

Abe  
Sometimes it's nice to just be alone. Like, rocket me someplace where I don't have to deal with people. 

Sam  
Rocket me into the stratosphere. Please. 

Abe  
Let me be alone for a week.

Karly  
Sam, do you remember that guy? Who went skydiving but yeah, like went right at the edge?

Sam  
I - don't. 

Abe  
I remember that guy. 

Sam  
He was sponsored by Red Bull. Don't ask me why I remember that. But it was sponsored by Red Bull. 

Karly  
How did he not die? 

Sam  
I don't know. How did he? How did gravity not keep him in there?

Abe  
I so like that guy did not freak me out. I thought that was really cool. Do you guys remember a couple years ago, the people who were like, Hey, this is a really good idea. Let's tightrope walk across the Grand Canyon. 

Sam  
I vaguely kind of remember that. 

Karly  
I don't.

Abe  
It was like, What are they? What are the kids calling it now the early aughts? Is that what it is like early, mid 2000s? There was like three people who were like, hey, so we're gonna do this cool thing. We are going to without any support tightrope walk across the Grand Canyon. And they had like, there were drones that were watching them. They weren't hooked to anything so they very really could die. And they were like yeah, we're just gonna do this.

Karly  
Some people really love taunting death. 

Abe  
Not me. Not that way at least like, do you know how windy it is above the Grand Canyon? There's a giant hole in the ground. 

Karly  
Couldn't be me. 

Abe  
It's a wind tunnel. Yeah. 

Karly  
I hate that. 

Abe  
But skydiving from space. Let me at it.

Karly  
No, that really scares me. I don't understand gravity. 

Abe  
Guys, maybe I just really don't like Earth. Maybe the Earth is just upsetting to me. 

Sam  
Fair though.

Karly  
Let me be in space where I could be weightless and not fat. Like I don't have to feel my bones or my organs. Let me float around.

Sam  
Oh my god. Karly, you were talking about like taunting death. And that made me think of this story that I heard yesterday for the first time. I was watching my favorite YouTuber. Her name is Amanda. Shoutout to the Amanda files. And she someone asked her a question about like, lost files or something like that. And she started talking about the guy Timothy Toadstool is that maybe? But it was this guy who hung out with bears like he like lived in a national park. And he ended up getting mauled and eaten by a bear. But there's 

Abe
I know what you’re talking about

Sam
What you know what I'm talking about? 

Abe
I said I know what you're talking about yeah.

Sam
And but there's he had been recording but he hadn't taken like the cap off yet so like there's audio footage of basically recording him getting him and his girlfriend getting eaten to death by a bear. 

Karly
This is very depressing.

Sam
But you can't listen to it. I think like the sister of the guy like has it and it's like locked away or whatever.

Karly
Who wants to listen to that?

Sam
Right well that's the thing like it's not there. But yeah you just said taunting death and that just made me think about this guy who just like liked to be with the bears.

Karly
I mean I have long said that if I was out in the woods and a grizzly bear appeared I would die because I would not be able to help myself from being like big puppy.

Sam
Big puppy.

Karly
and my hand would go and I would die because I would want to pet the bear and if I die petting a bear then so be it.

Sam
Right.

Abe
If god didn't want us to pet bears he wouldn't have made their ears so fuzzy.

Karly
Exactly 

Sam
He wouldn't have made the if - if snoot not boopable 

Karly
Why cute?

Sam
Why cute?

Abe
Yeah exactly like 100%.

Karly
Wow.

Abe
I for my job one of the places that I make reservations for which is like I deal with the park system and stuff like that there is an advisory that I have to read for some of the parks that's like ‘don't touch the black bears do not touch them do not feed them stay away from the black bears they will kill you’.

Sam
That's like the same energy as like ‘please’ - in florida I don't know if it's everywhere I haven't really noticed but in florida you have there's like signage everywhere like ‘please don't stop on the train tracks’ ‘please don't touch the bears’ like.

Abe
Please please don't do stupid things but you know like it's like the ‘don't use the hair dryer in the tub’ warnings like you know it's there because people have done it.

Karly 
Yeah.

Abe
And there are a lot of warnings out there that like this seems like common sense but you have to have a warning so that means that someone was stupid enough to do it.

Sam
Yep.

Karly
I realized that.

Sam
People - oh god go ahead.

Karly
I was just gonna say I realize it's not smart but I also think I am destined to be killed by wildlife and I'm okay with it.

Sam
You think? 

Abe
We all make peace with things.

Karly
Yes.

Sam
Okay. 

Karly
I just I have good impulse control until it comes with animals and I just I want to touch.

Abe
Yeah I agree with that though. Like I am one of those people where if wildlife were to take me out then so be it like let them take me. If especially like wild animals and stuff like that. I probably deserved it.

Karly
Yeah exactly. 

Abe
Let's be real.

Karly
If I upset the bear he can murder me that seems fair.

Sam
Seems like a good trade-off.

Karly
What were you going to say though Sam?

Sam
I don't remember. 

Karly
Oh no.

Sam 
Oh no.

Abe
Oh no.

Karly
I ruined it.

Sam
It's okay and you didn't. I'm just very focused on not dying again.

Abe
Yeah how's everyone's gameplay going?

Karly
I got overwhelmed by stardew and so I've just kind of been staring into your dreamy eyes my friend.

Sam
Abe does have really beautiful eyes though.

Karly
It's true.

Abe
Oh thank you I grew them myself a little help from my mom.

Karly
Wow.

Sam
I love that.

Karly
Good job.

Abe
Thanks.

Karly
Did you get past tarzan? 

Abe
I don't know how to accept compliments. No I'm still I've gotten farther than I was but I still keep just yeeting myself off of the branches so we're just an endless loop of falling into water and climbing back up ivy falling back into water so but you know we're trying. I was telling Sam before we started recording but I made some decisions when I started playing this because I have played kingdom hearts before but this is the first time that I've played it in a while because I didn't have kingdom hearts one. I was like this isn't my first playthrough I'll be fine and I decided to play it on proud level which is the hardest level like difficulty level that you can play it on and then once you start it you can't go back and change it.

Sam
You really goofed my friend.

Karly
It couldn't be me. 

Abe
So I made a decision and now I gotta stick with it.

Karly
If I can't play on easy mode I'm not playing.

Sam
Yeah.

Karly
I didn't come here to suffer, I came here to have fun.

Abe
That's absolutely valid and like I don't know I'm finding my suffering to be kind of amusing and fun but also at the same time like I've built up a reward system of when I beat a boss I allow myself to have some sort of treat.

Karly 
I love that.

Abe
Like last night I was having a hard time beating the boss in the alice in wonderland world so when I finally did I get to eat the piece of tiramisu that I bought myself.

Karly
Nice.

Abe
And if I do come across a boss say while I am playing then I am allowed to eat my donut that I bought earlier if I beat them so. We all do what we gotta do.

Sam
I don't think I'm going to beat this thing again, I'm just. But if I die again i'm going to play something else. 

Karly
That's fair.

Abe 
As is your right.

Karly
We have been recording for a while. Normally we ask each other what we're gonna play next week but since we have a guest we should do something a little different so Abe if you could only recommend one video game for people to try what would it be?

Abe
Oh that's rude. I play so many different genres of games that I have recommendations for like different genres.

Karly
Okay top three.

Abe
Top three okay. Well, I have to. I am a simp for freaking silent hill so that is always like number one if you like survival if you like horror games silent hill is my number one recommendation. As far as like role playing games, I would say final fantasy 10 would probably be my number one recommendation for things like that. That was technically the very first final fantasy game that I played and completed and it's just a fun story and a really simple gameplay to get used to and my third once again going back to horror just because it is also like my top favorite game any of the bioshock games like bioshock 1 is the music's great, the storyline's, great the visuals are great, like. So that would be my top three.

Karly
Love that love that. Thanks for hanging out with us today, friend.

Sam
Yeah.

Abe
Of course thanks for inviting me, so glad that I got to share this experience with you guys. 

Karly
Yeah of course. You'll have to come back sometime to tell us more about like crystals and tarot and stuff because we don't have time to get into it.

Abe
Yeah any time. 

Sam
Yay.

Abe
I would love it. So what are you guys going to play next week?

Karly
I don't know we won't stick to anything we say anyway.

Sam
Maybe I'll buy a new game.

Karly
Maybe.

Abe
You should play, you should play - deep - what was it the what was the free game for May that we both downloaded?

Sam
I didn't download it.

Abe
You didn't? 

Sam
No but it's stranded deep.

Abe
You should play that though.

Sam
Alright.

Abe
Download it.

Karly
Maybe I'll get Subnautica. I feel like it's fairly similar.

Abe
Yes I want you both to have ocean games since we talked about space, you guys prefer the ocean. Play ocean games next week.

Sam
No promises because we never like Karly said we never play what we say we're gonna play but.

Karly
Literally never.

Abe
You know that's valid.

Karly
Well anyways I love you both.

Sam
I love you guys.

Abe
I love you both too.

Karly
Wow.

Abe
Thank you for having me.

Sam
Yes literally anytime you want.

Abe
I'll take you up on that.

Karly
Okay great.

Sam
love that.

All
Bye!

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Sam 
Hey and thanks for hanging out and playing with us. We hope you had fun. if you want to see more of us find us on social media @hangoutandplay or on our website at hangoutandplaypod.com. We'd love to hear from you so feel free to send us a game suggestion or just a hello

Karly 
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